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  • emma clarkeemma clarke Nottingham Robin Hood CountryMember Posts: 6,819
    edited 27 July, 2006
    If you read the information about Iams on the ASPCA website which Sneakers mentions it does state: " Beginning in the Spring of 2003, the ASPCA began participating in site visits to external facilities where Iams was conducting nutritional studies. Reports on these visits have led Iams to make changes in the housing, care and enrichment of animals involved in Iams' program." So obviously at some point their animal welfare standards were NOT up to scratch. I haven't read all the Iams information on the ASPCA page but the gist of it seems to be that there WERE problems with Iams and their research procedures but the ASPCA have been working closely with them to sort this out.
  • Maureen O'ReillyMaureen O'Reilly Member Posts: 1,518
    edited 27 July, 2006
    Well fine, than don't beleave it........
  • julia leafblowerjulia leafblower Dog Agility CityMember Posts: 668
    edited 27 July, 2006
    I just don't think the info was up-to-date. Iams probably did do bad testing until the ASPCA came along.
  • Maureen O'ReillyMaureen O'Reilly Member Posts: 1,518
    edited 27 July, 2006
    Your right, maybe they have shanged slightly. But if so why is everyone still protesting. And on the right side of the side it keeps us up to date. (chicks not being used, new cages......) So why wouldn't they upddate not being cruel to animals?
  • MouseMouse Near Camborne,Member Posts: 43,591 ✭✭✭
    edited 27 July, 2006
    My mom heard about this well over a year ago now. And she said that even if they have changed things she still wouldn't buy it, The damage has been done. The Cornish crew.
  • Maureen O'ReillyMaureen O'Reilly Member Posts: 1,518
    edited 27 July, 2006
    You are right! Even if they did change it, either way when they investigated for the 10 months, lots of animals died. And that can't change! Who would want to hurt an animal?
  • emma clarkeemma clarke Nottingham Robin Hood CountryMember Posts: 6,819
    edited 27 July, 2006
    Oh, I DO believe it Ajax. In my message I was just trying to point out to those who don\'t believe it, that the ASPCA DID find things wrong at one point and have tried to help Iams in the correct treatment of animals. I also agree with those who say that they don\'t forgive Iams for cruelty already committed. Big companies like this should set an example on animal welfare, they can afford to. If they hadn\'t been uncovered, the cruelty would be still going on today. It\'s no excuse for Iams saying \"well these research facilities were external and we didn\'t know what was going on, blah blah blah\". It is their business to know what\'s going on and their reputation that\'s at stake, which they have now found to their cost.
  • Cassandra GriffinCassandra Griffin OmahaMember Posts: 4,662
    edited 27 July, 2006
    i onley eat friskeys and when i was young purtunia but never lams so i wont die YAY! IM NOT GONNA DIE YAY! thank catness
  • Maureen O'ReillyMaureen O'Reilly Member Posts: 1,518
    edited 27 July, 2006
    LOL! But Kayla, you don't die to eat it. You die if your used to make the product!
  • Kelly LawKelly Law BuffaloMember Posts: 10,563
    edited 27 July, 2006
    Don't believe PETA. I'm questioning this posters original post. It could of also been the WAY that the animals werekept as well. If this is old news, then it's old news. If not, get me another source. A TRUSTING source. Second of all, somebody finds something wrong, with all of the pet food. Boycott it all? I don't think so.
  • julia leafblowerjulia leafblower Dog Agility CityMember Posts: 668
    edited 27 July, 2006
    Good point. I don't know who to believe, PETA is quite untrustworthy (IAMS is too) that's why I usually don't post on these IAMS' forums....................*PLEASE don't take it wrong I'm not trying to be mean* (mews and hides under bed)
  • Cassandra GriffinCassandra Griffin OmahaMember Posts: 4,662
    edited 27 July, 2006
    hehe i changed my forms name! so did my sis.
  • julia leafblowerjulia leafblower Dog Agility CityMember Posts: 668
    edited 28 July, 2006
    I'm glad the at least are FIXING the problem......
  • lynn spicerlynn spicer marysvilleMember Posts: 271
    edited 28 July, 2006
    Bear in mind that not everything that PETA reports on is true. Also keep in mind that PETA thinks that keeping pets is slavery to the animal and is wrong. Just do your own investigating, that's all I'm saying. BTW, Iams is the only food that keeps our Boston brother, Zeus, from regurgitating -- it's also a company that has done a lot for animal organizations, much like Purina and Hills. I'm not sure that can be said of PETA.
  • Celeste EvansCeleste Evans HobartMember Posts: 181
    edited 29 July, 2006
    Hello I'm not sure how the fact that these practices are in the past (if they are) means everything's fine and we should support the company responsible. If they didn't change until they were found out then that's inexcusable. I don't really know much about PETA but I'm curious about what they've done to be inhumane to animals (couple of posters mentioned). It seems to me that if anyone has direct knowledge that they tell lies that's one thing, but if it's something that's been 'reported'.... well it wouldn't be such a stretch for some company they've targeted to spread that info to discredit them would it? In any case, who's to say that Iams wasn't just 'unlucky' to get exposed - other companies could potentially use bad practices. I guess the only way to be sure is to feed a non-manufactured natural diet ... you don't need to do tests on animals eating plain meat to see what happens to them.....
  • Anne WhitehurstAnne Whitehurst LongmontMember Posts: 5,024
    edited 29 July, 2006
    Well, I for one tend to have more faith in what ASPCA and Humane Society reports say rather than the fanatics at PETA. If they say IAMS is toe-ing the line these days and have mended their ways, then we shouldn\'t hold past offenses against them forever. It\'s kind of a moot point for me personally, though--Mommie feeds me Science Diet dry and Fancy Feast for my breakfast and treats!
  • lynn spicerlynn spicer marysvilleMember Posts: 271
    edited 29 July, 2006
    Thanks for passing along those links Hunter!! Everyone needs to be aware that PETA has a large sum of money and they use very little of it to help humane organizations.
  • Cassandra GriffinCassandra Griffin OmahaMember Posts: 4,662
    edited 29 July, 2006
    fine just let poor anmails suffer im NOT GONNA STOP BOYCOTTING!
  • Courtney DeveruxCourtney Deverux San LeandroMember Posts: 106
    edited 29 July, 2006
    Good thing I\'ve never ate Iams before. I\'m gonna pass this on to my group.
  • Tiffany McConnellTiffany McConnell OmahaMember Posts: 30,862
    edited 1 August, 2006
    I dont believe I've ever eaten IAMs.... Human as tried me on lots of things... Special Kitty... Whiskas...Friskies... lots of them! Shes starting to feed me Eukanuba now. I love it!
  • Maria VMaria V Member Posts: 179
    edited 8 August, 2006
    Mom, my sister and I are just outraged and horrified about this!! Mom even checked on the other sites as well that are linked to the issue: http://www.iamscruelty.com/ http://www.uncaged.co.uk/petfood.htm http://www.uncaged.co.uk/iams.htm Someone just gave us a bag of Iams and we don't know what to do with it. (The person who gave it to us says that her kitties didn't like it and maybe we will) But we are horrified! If this has been going on.. why haven't they been stopped yet? It's so sad :0(
  • Audrey McAnarneyAudrey McAnarney Atlanta, GeorgiaMember Posts: 1,982
    edited 9 August, 2006
    If IAMS claimed that they did not test on animals before, how do we know that other brands such as Science Diet arent doing the same? I am a little confused.
  • Melissa FordMelissa Ford Santa CruzMember Posts: 3,914
    edited 11 August, 2006
    Just wanted ot post this....this is from another forum that I frequent and thought it may be of interest ot some. THIS IS NOT TRUE! < marleycat > 08/11 10:08:23 you do not have to like Iams for whatever real reasons, but cruelty like this, well it isn't true. Also, Iams I think is Proctor Gamble now (or some other bigwig) so if anyone owns blue chip stocks, they own Iams stock. no, i do not work for Iams < marleycat > 08/11 10:24:18 but I am a veterinarian and while, as in every profession there are some bad eggs, most vets are in the field because of their profound committment to animals. There is worthy debate about what exactly that means--does it mean no animal testing (there are vets for animal rights, too)or does it mean the challenge of balancing human needs and wants with animal welfare. The latter is particularly true in large animal medicine where factory farming is less than ideal to provide enough food for the masses, and admittedly, animals are on the short end of the stick in a big way (go veggie). BUT small animal medicine doesn't have that complication. Use common sense: why would a huge community of vets not be in a uproar if this were true? Do you really think this is only about money for us?? When in reality, for the education, we are among the least compensated of health professionals? Do you think vets are going to recc. any food that truly involves torture? You can't buy credibility and every professional in whatever profession they are in strives always for credibility. http://www.iamstruth.com/iamstruth/en_US/jhtmls/landing/IT_Landing_Page.jhtml?li=en_US&pti=RP How we conduct our studies: All of the dogs and cats in our feeding programs who are not already private pets remain in our program, are adopted into private homes or are placed in our retirement center. We ensure the humane treatment of all species and provide for their well being, socialization and husbandry in a manner compatible with the company's philosophy. We assure the highest possible standards of care by having an Animal Welfare Specialist and Veterinarian looking after the dogs and cats in our studies. We are committed to exceeding standards established by US and European legislation and guidelines. Our studies are monitored by our own staff and independent experts with the goal being to create enriched environments for the cats and dogs. If there is the potential for pain or distress, we do whatever we can to prevent or eliminate it. We do not fund any activities outside our company that may be inconsistent with our Policy. We do not use, in any studies, cats or dogs who are already induced with disease or surgically altered through other research; nor does the company conduct such studies under the auspices of any industry association or group. By October 2006, we are committed to conducting studies in three locations: pet owners' homes, our Pet Health & Nutrition Center and locations where dogs and cats are already living such as shelters, assistance dog organizations and privately-owned kennels and catteries. We test our foods with healthy pet cats or dogs in their homes or with pets who already have specific diseases or conditions. Get the IAMS facts: http://www.iamstruth.com/iamstruth/en_US/jhtmls/article/IT_Article_Page.jhtml;jsessionid=2TTWSFGAAAUZNQFIAJ1YYCQ?li=en_US&pti=RP&articleID=6
  • Toba HartmannToba Hartmann Long IslandMember Posts: 1,185
    edited 11 August, 2006
    Excellent post Hunter! As usual, you\'re the voice of reason. I checked out www.iamstruth.com and found the section \"What the Experts Say\" very interesting and informative. Pardon me, but I choose to think the ASPCA, Humane Society, American Animal Hosp. Assoc, etc. etc are reliable sources. I have never eaten Iams, neither has my dog sister. But there is so much hyper-inflammatory nonesense out there. And for better or worse, these forums fan the flames. Do your own research, make your own choices. And don\'t let any one \"guilt\" you into anything.
  • Maria VMaria V Member Posts: 179
    edited 12 August, 2006
    Hunter, Thank you! For the last past couple of days, mom was scared to click on any of the Iams sites as the sites we have visited saddened all of us, really. There is another site that I have but cannot manage to finish reading it. If you are interested.. let me know. Love, Charlie
  • D AndradeD Andrade MississaugaMember Posts: 1
    edited 14 August, 2006
    I was on Whiskas when I was 2-3 yrs old and I got bloody diahrrea from it, so did my my sister & brother (they\'ve been adopted now). So my mommy switched me to IAMS, cuz the vet told her to. I was eating IAMS for at least 4 yrs when I started to notice that the food quality kept changing. The smell changed and the taste too. I didn\'t like it as much. Then I started to puke every time I ate it. I got very sick and mommy was really scared for me. She did some research and found out that IAMS quality is terrible. It is so full of fillers and crap. She changed me to Performatrin Ultra and I have been soooo happy since. I always bug mommy for more and I my fur is so shiny and I don\'t shed as much as I used to. I have more energy now. I don\'t like IAMS. Whether or not the cruelty is true, I don\'t know. What I do know is that I got very sick on IAMS and mommy boycotts it now. BTW Eukanuba is owned by IAMS too.
  • Maureen O'ReillyMaureen O'Reilly Member Posts: 1,518
    edited 18 August, 2006
    Thats a goodd point! But I beleaive it's true! I just don't see why they'd lie about it!
  • Hazel_LucyHazel_Lucy PurrsvilleMember Posts: 6,156 ✭✭✭
    edited 5 September, 2006
    Mom switched me to a holistic food that has helped me cut down on the amount of insulin I need. VeRus Feline Advantage cat food (dry) is amazing! Found it at an independent pet supply store. Ate California Natural before that. My fur is like down, I'm brighter and more active since being on the VeRUS. It's available on the internet, and sold in independent store in PA and CA. I love it! Also, no more hairballs, ever!
  • Celeste EvansCeleste Evans HobartMember Posts: 181
    edited 5 September, 2006
    Hmm yeah I can't help but wonder what PETA would have to gain by lying ............
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