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Am i too old?

Kathryn BeltKathryn Belt RhinelanderMember Posts: 155 ✭✭
edited 21 July, 2007 in Cat Health
Mommy and I have talked about it a lot. I have been having problems with my teeth - by Canine teeth fell out years ago and at the time mommy didn\'t have the money to get it fixed now she has the money but she heard some one at work tell her that their baby died during the surgery to clean his teeth. I need 2 root canals and a cleaning and she thinks it might be too much for me because I am 13 almost 14 years old. She says that I have smelly kitty breath and I do drool a lot when I get excited. But we have made changes to my diet to make it easier on me - no gummy soft food it gets stuck and I freak out. Lots of canned food and crunchy kitty \'cookies\' (treats) daily. And she sneaks Kitty Breath freshener in my water bowl when she thinks I am not looking. She is scared I can tell. She wants me to be healthy and happy but she doesn\'t want to lose me either. Personally I don\'t think Surgery sounds like fun at all. Maybe we should try brushing. So am i too old?


  • Carrie ComerCarrie Comer Page CountyMember Posts: 888
    edited 22 June, 2007
    Well, talk to your vet and get some blood work done. "Teefers" are a big deal and bad ones can make us sick. But you and your vet have to weigh that with your risk from going under for surgery. There are always risks even for young kitties. My vet feels that at my age (almost 17 now) that I am no longer a candidate for any surgery that isn't needed for a major reason. My last cleaning was at about your age. Get the blood work run first and see how that looks, then decide if you want to go ahead. Your vet will also get a better picture after that is done. Good luck either way.
  • edited 22 June, 2007
    I had a dental in May with an extraction and I did just fine. I am 15 by the way. My fur-bro Monkey also had a big dental in May and he had to have three extractions. He's 14 and came through it like a champ. It is important that they do bloodwork prior to anesthesia in order to determine that all systems are good to go. Of course, with any medical procedure, there are always risks, but you don't want a painful mouth either! Good luck!
  • Hazel_LucyHazel_Lucy PurrsvilleMember Posts: 6,156 ✭✭✭
    edited 22 June, 2007
    I've had two cleanings and the second one they pulled two teeth. Anesthesia always has a risk, but generally, if the vet is good and your overall health is good, no worries. Keep us posted!
  • Meghan GiacopelliMeghan Giacopelli WashingtonMember Posts: 445
    edited 22 June, 2007
    My first question is are you in pain? I know that when I needed root canals or other dental work it was something that was causing me pain, also something that could infect other things- like abcesses. Our dog had to get blood work and a heart check before her teeth cleaning because she was elderly. If there is pain then something should be done to fix that.
  • edited 22 June, 2007
    I just had a tooth cleaning done. I'm 7. The vet was going to do a full blood panel, but she said that I looked so extraordinarily healthy for my age, that she said I could probably get by with a mini panel which is what we did. I'm fine now! Clean teeth feel good, I just want that fur to grow back on my forelegs!:))
  • Jan AllenJan Allen DallasMember Posts: 2,596
    edited 22 June, 2007
    I had my teeth cleaned at 15. Just make sure they do blood work and put you on IV's. Your vet should be able to tell if it is ok to up you under. Mommy worried but I had a couple of teeth that needed to come out due to being on steriods for so long. good luck
  • Nancy PattersonNancy Patterson Member Posts: 134
    edited 23 June, 2007
    Hi Taz, I agree with the other kits here, with good blood work and a good feline dentist - your overall health will benefit from a healthy mouth. There is increased risk to your heart & kidneys from the bacteria associated with poor dental hygiene. The sedation is very light compared to what it was just 10 years ago. The blood work will let the vet know if your kidney or liver function put you at risk. From there, the right sedation can be selected and managed. Yes, I am only 4 (next month actually), but I have had to have extractions - just a congenital abnormality that caused me to have oral problems. Not really so unusual, just bumb choppers. Science Diet Prescription \"T/D\" kibble from the vet, has been a Godsend! It really works to reduce gingivitis and tartar. By the way, I am a spitty kitty, too. I just had my teeth cleaned this week. It\'s an annual event for every kitty in our house. $$$, but our human says it is good for us in the short & long run. If you need root canals, you are headed for TROUBLE if you wait. You are not too old for a healthy mouth! :D;) Wishing you all the best!!:)
  • edited 23 June, 2007
    Well said Biscuit! No cat is too old for a healthy smile.:D
  • Leanne FroebelLeanne Froebel Member Posts: 1,730
    edited 23 June, 2007
    I agree with the previous posts. - have pre-surgical bloodwork done to check for any potential problem with anesthesia. - agree to an IV, it will help keep you hydrated and your bloodpressure stable. Yes, there are risks with any surgical procedure. However, veterinary medicine has come a long way in recent years. If your bloodwork is okay and you have a good vet, the risk is extremely small and I would not hesitate to have your teeth done. My big brother Mickey had his teeth done when he was 9. Infected or bad teeth and gums are not good or healthy either and can lead to more problems - not to mention it\'s uncomfortable! After the dental, I would recommend brushing your teeth. C.E.T. makes a poultry flavored toothpaste for pets that I really like. Biscuit mentioned Hills Prescription Diet feline t/d. Our vet recommended it too. We eat it, like it, and it does help keep our teeth and gums healthy.
  • Melissa FordMelissa Ford Santa CruzMember Posts: 3,914
    edited 23 June, 2007
    Taz, There are always risk associated with anesthesia, but sometimes the benefits outweigh those risks. You should have your vet test your livert and kidney function before anesthesia (within the week). This will let your vet know if you are going to metabloize the injectable part of the anesthetic. Your lungs metabloizde the inhaled part. If your liver and/or kidneys are not functioning properly, they have other options for anesthesia. They could give you a different type of injectable part or only used the inhaled part. Based on your blood work your vet will also determine whether IV fluids are needed. (I recommend them due to your age). The risks for leaving badly infected teeth in the mouth are great. The bacteria can enter the bloodstream through your infected gums and negatively affect the heart and kidneys. Make sure that our vet gives you an injection of pain medication while you are at the hospital along with sending you home on pain meds. Do not leave the office unless you get pain medication. Your mouth will be sore for about a week. Your vet may also tell you to feed only soft food until the mouth has healed (1-2 weeks). You will also get an injection of antibiotics while at the vets office and should be sent home with oral medications as well, You may even want to ask your vet if they want to start you on antibiotics before you actually go in for your procedure. Overall, if the proper steps are taken (bloodwork and appropriate anesthesia, along with IV fluids and careful monitoring) the risk to anesthesia is small.
  • Melissa FordMelissa Ford Santa CruzMember Posts: 3,914
    edited 23 June, 2007
    I meant to mom's practice they anesthetize older patients all the time. Many of them are in very poor health (cats that have been vomiting for months on end that now weight 4 pounds, etc.) As long as the necessary precautions are taken you should do just fine.
  • Donna LenzDonna Lenz BethelMember Posts: 4,600 ✭✭✭
    edited 23 June, 2007
    You're still a kitten compared to me! I just had a huge operation where I had two tumors taken out - I had 27 staples in my side. I did fine, so tell Mom not to worry. My doggy sister Amber will need to have her teeth done very soon. And she's just a kid - 4 years old. She went to the Vet yesterday, and she has a tick desease - and her gums are not good right now. Once she's done with her antibiotics, Mom will schedule her dental work. They suggested a new type of dental shots for her. Mom does not know if they make it for kittys too. Hunter - do you know?
  • debby dunndebby dunn raleighMember Posts: 11
    edited 23 June, 2007
    :D you are never to old to have nice breath and teeth. I had mine done few months back, just make sure of the bloodwork, have an IV to keep things right...but like anything there are risks involved. We will keep you in our prayers if you have it done.
  • Melissa FordMelissa Ford Santa CruzMember Posts: 3,914
    edited 23 June, 2007
    I have no experience with the vaccine (it's quite new on the market) and as far as I know it's only available for dogs.
  • Melissa FordMelissa Ford Santa CruzMember Posts: 3,914
    edited 23 June, 2007
    here's a clickable link: Porphyromonas Vaccine Porphyromonas Denticanis-Gulae-Salivosa Bacterin* (Porphyromonas Vaccine) Product Description The Porphyromonas Denticanis-Gulae-Salivosa Bacterin is approved for the vaccination of healthy dogs as an aid in preventing periodontitis, as demonstrated by a reduction in bone changes (osteolysis/osteosclerosis). Advantages * Porphyromonas Denticanis-Gulae-Salivosa Bacterin is the first and only vaccine to aid in the prevention of canine periodontitis which affects 85% of dogs over 3 years of age.1 * This product is an important new adjunct to professional dental cleaning, periodontal therapy and owner-administrated dental care routines. * The Porphyromonas Vaccine is part of a complete canine wellness program that encourages annual visits. * Safety of the vaccine was evaluated in laboratory studies and a field safety study. Key Features * Inactivated P. denticanis, P. gulae and P. salivosa bacterin (liquid form) * Adjuvant to enhance immune response * Primary vaccination—two doses, three week apart * Twenty-five 1 mL doses per carton * Adminster 1 mL subcutaneously Directions * General Directions: Vaccination of healthy dogs is recommended. Shake well. Aspetically administer 1 mL subcutaneously. * Primary Vaccination: Healthy dogs should receive 2 doses administered 3 weeks apart. * Revaccination: Duration of immunity for this product has not been determined; six and twelve month intervals are being evaluated. * Notice: This product license is conditional. Efficacy and/or potency of this product have not been fully demonstrated, consultation with a veterinarian is recommended.
  • ZACKandZOEYZACKandZOEY Cave Creek, AZMember Posts: 12,043 ✭✭
    edited 24 June, 2007
    I'm 16 and in April had my teeth cleaned. I did fine. Make sure they do bloodwork before hand. Even with CRF they were able to put me under and clean my teeth with no problems. Like other kitties have posted, the health of your teeth can effect your overall health, just like with people. So dental care is very important. I've had my teeth cleaned only twice professionally. Never have had any teeth pulled yet so I'm lucky in that regard. My Mommy does brush my teeth at home now - everyday. My teeths looked so pretty and brand new after the cleaning that she wants to keep them that way!! Discuss all your concerns with your Vet so your Mommy feels comfortable with her decision.
  • edited 24 June, 2007
    I think the benefits usually outweigh the risks. When teeth are in poor condition, it build up bad bacteria in the mouth, and when it's swallowed, that poison could damage the liver, kidneys and heart. A beautiful smile is alot more than meets the eye.:D
  • Kathryn BeltKathryn Belt RhinelanderMember Posts: 155 ✭✭
    edited 24 June, 2007
    Thank you guys so much - Mommy and I are feeling better about it. I think we will make an appointment with my vet and start taking steps in that direction, blodd work a such. Our vet is pretty good and even has s dental specialist on staff. I am sure they will be able to answer our other questions. Mommy worried about infects and discomfort for me if I continue to go untreated. She stresses about me a lot. I will keep you guys posted on my progress in my diary.
  • Kathryn BeltKathryn Belt RhinelanderMember Posts: 155 ✭✭
    edited 12 July, 2007
    Update Mom and I went to the vet and they said that I had stage 4 of periodontal disease - FYI there is no stage 5. And my mouth was infected. So they did blood work and good new I they said I am in excellent health so we scheduled the cleaning/surgery for July 16th. Mommy started me on my pre-surgery anti-biotics and I am already starting to perk up a little. Getting all they nasty stuff out of my mouth will surely make me feel tons better. Mom and I are still worried but we feel a little better. Mommy promises to take good care of me after wards and lay with me like i did with her when she had surgery last year. She said it's my turn to be taken care of. I have such a good mommy. (purrrrr) Our vet is really good, I hear. The Vet tech said they had only lost like one kitty with this procedure that she knew of. All anesthetized patients are monitored by a Licensed Veterinary Technician from the moment of induction until they are fully recovered. They also monitor each surgery patients heart and respiratory rates, blood pressure, EKG (heart rhythm), body temperature and arterial oxygen levels (using pulse oximeters). Not that I know what any of that means but ti sounds impressive to me. And you better believe mommy will be calling them a lot to check on me monday.
  • Melissa FordMelissa Ford Santa CruzMember Posts: 3,914
    edited 13 July, 2007
    It sounds like you have a very good vet who monitors his/her patients very well. Most vets have very little monitoring equipment (sometimes you are lucky if you get a pulse ox). Sounds like you'll be very well cared for. I'm glad you are feeling better with your antibiotics and you'll be getting rid of your infected teeth soon. Please keep us updated. Purrs
  • Saija SaundersSaija Saunders BrisbaneMember Posts: 1,766
    edited 21 July, 2007
    Age isn't the issue, it's your health. At 20 the vet said I was fine to be put under to have my teeth cleaned and fixed (I really do need it- bad breath central). Said my blood work showed I was really fit and healthy. However, being so old mummy wasn't game - as I'm eating and not sick she has put it off. She would rather have me with bad breath than not have me at all.
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