Constipation + Dr\\\'s visit = Still not feeling well

Gretchen SmithGretchen Smith ManheimMember Posts: 22
edited 1 January, 2009 in Cat Health
About a week ago I started to not eat so much and hardly going to the bathroom. All I wanted to do was hide under the sofa or on my cat tree. Sometimes when I jumped I would wobble when I landed, or I wouldn\'t make my jumps at all. I had trouble on the stairs, too. I loved being held and petted though. Mommy finally had enough and took me to the vet yesterday. The vet took an x-ray and it showed that I was very constipated. They did an enema and said the stool was soft and looked normal and they couldn\'t find anything that would cause me to be constipated. I\'m still hanging out under the couch and on my cat tree. I\'m still not eating much either. I\'m on Science Diet and after reading some posts on here, I\'m wondering if that could be causing my trouble even though it\'s not causing my brother any trouble (he\'s my biological brother). I am wondering if I\'m still out of it from the enema and if I will be back to my normal nosy, energetic self soon or if there is still something wrong. Has anyone else had an constipation and an enema? How long did it take you to recover?

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  • Ellie CarterEllie Carter SeattleMember Posts: 2,252
    edited 30 December, 2008
    It could be from the food. I would call your vet and see what they suggest. Science Diet is definitely not the best food although at least 90% of vets push it.... You might also want to get a second opinion. Good luck!
  • Lisa DausmanLisa Dausman Member Posts: 5,216
    edited 30 December, 2008
    I used to feed SD, but cats were throwing up too many hairballs, Prowler kept getting constipated, and the last straw, was the crystals kept coming back. Being a horse person, I know how important feeding good quality grain and hay is, so went on a mission to learn about what is good quality cat food, what to look for on the bags. I now feed Blue Wilderness. No more hairballs, no more constipated, no more crystals. Here is a link to help you. http://www.catinfo.org/ And I found out, grain is for horses, not cats. Until you can get the cats on a better food, ask your vet about giving him Metimucil. It has to be sugar free and unflavored. The dosage would depend on the weight of the cat and the degree of constipation. This is what they put Prowler on, and for him it worked, now I don't even have to do that anymore, but run it by your vet first. Here are some more links to help you. http://www.peteducation.com/category.cfm?c=1+2122 http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=1+2122&aid=3471 :):):):):):D:D:D:D:D:):):):):)
  • Gretchen SmithGretchen Smith ManheimMember Posts: 22
    edited 30 December, 2008
    Thanks for the information! I'm definitely going to look into some alternative foods. I don't want to try anything like Metamucil yet because the vet said the stools were soft and a stool softener would give me the runs. That's the confusing part about all of this...the vet couldn't figure out what backed me up in the first place...everything looked normal. I wonder if a bigger litter box would be better for me...I was 16.7 pounds yesterday at the vet's. Maybe I'm just rebelling against the biggest box mommy can find. She said she might have to get me a Rubbermaid under-the-bed box for a litter box!
  • Tina BTina B Vancouver IslandMember Posts: 2,238
    edited 30 December, 2008
    Hi TJ first thing you need to do is to get off that Science diet food. I get so mad that vets still push this inapropriate diet on our carnivores, which cause so many bad health issues. catinfo.org is a great site to read, this site will also help you try to loose some weight, it gives some good ideas. Also here is another good site that you can read: http://www.blakkatz.com/dryfood.html
  • Gretchen SmithGretchen Smith ManheimMember Posts: 22
    edited 30 December, 2008
    Wow, I am really wondering if it all comes down to the dry Science Diet food. This is scary. The only thing I don't understand is that it would make sense if the stools were hard and that caused my constipation because then we could figure that I wasn't getting enough water; but the stools were soft and appeared normal. Could the dry food still cause it to back up even though they appeared normal? Is the wet Science Diet not very good either, or just the dry? I'm thinking it would be easier to change food from dry to wet if I could keep it in the same brand/taste. Thanks so much!!
  • Tina BTina B Vancouver IslandMember Posts: 2,238
    edited 30 December, 2008
    Hi again I just looked at the ingredients in the lite formula of wet food from Science diet: Water, Pork Liver, Pork by-products, Chicken, Powdered Cellulose, Wheat Flour, Corn Starch, Ground Whole Grain Corn, Corn Gluten Meal, Rice Flour, Chicken Liver Flavor, Oat Fiber, Flaxseed, Guar Gum, Locust Bean Gum, Calcium Carbonate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Brewers Yeast, Caramel Color, Carrageenan, DL-Methionine, Potassium Chloride, Choline Chloride, Taurine, Iodized Salt, Fish Oil, Calcium Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Zinc Oxide, Ferrous Sulfate, Niacin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Manganous Oxide, Copper Sulfate, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Calcium Iodate, Folic Acid, Sodium Selenite I also looked at the Turkey flavour these both have rice flour, wheat flour and corn gluten meal= NOT GOOD at all plus an array of other yucky stuff. maybe your cat needs his anal sacs expressed, I am not a vet, but I do know about feline nutrition, which most not all vets are not trained enough in school on nutrition, (maybe a days worth of training and guess who trains them? The pet food company!! (Hills) It seems that they are always trying to fix the problems when they could be preventing them with appropriate nutrition. If you read the catinfo site it will tell you how to switch to a better food. I really hope this helps. Let us know how it goes ok.
  • Tina BTina B Vancouver IslandMember Posts: 2,238
    edited 30 December, 2008
    Here is another site that you can read about cat food ingredients http://www.bornfreeusa.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1
  • Sherry StoneSherry Stone Member Posts: 526
    edited 31 December, 2008
    Shadow- I already knew kibbles were terrible for cats, but I had no idea SD was that terrible! It's a crime what is pushed on helpless kitties as so-called food:-O
  • Gretchen SmithGretchen Smith ManheimMember Posts: 22
    edited 31 December, 2008
    Well, mommy went to PetSmart last night and talked to a lady there. The lady thinks I might have a hairball that is stuck and it's making me feel yucky. I'm almost 2.5 years old and have never coughed up a hairball, but I clean myself like crazy. The lady gave mommy some treats that are supposed to help with hairballs and mommy also bought a bag of the Blue Wilderness food. Poor mommy, I'm being difficult. I turned my nose up to the treats and won't eat them. She also mixed a little (not much to get us started) of the Blue food into my Science Diet and I don't show any interest in eating, Blue or Science Diet. I did drink a good bit of water last night, but there is still something that's not right. I'm wondering if this is just a stuck hairball and hopefully, it'll move it's way along soon so I am back to normal. Do any of you have any ideas how I can get things moving inside of me? Thanks for all of your help!
  • Amber SimmonAmber Simmon Member Posts: 2,703
    edited 31 December, 2008
    I got this paste for hairballs. I can't remembe what it's called, I got it at petco though. White and pink container. YOu squeze it on their paws and if they want it off, they have to ingest it. My cats feak out whn I put it on, but it works great.
  • Gretchen SmithGretchen Smith ManheimMember Posts: 22
    edited 31 December, 2008
    Hmm...that might work. I hate having stuff on my paws. I wonder if you can get it at PetSmart because mommy doesn't know where there are any other pet stores around here. Hopefully, it is just a hairball that's stuck and it'll come out soon. This not eating stuff is not good. Thanks!
  • Kerri ZimmermanKerri Zimmerman WinnipegMember Posts: 448
    edited 31 December, 2008
    My cat Lexus had an anema and was completely cleaned out while under a mild anasthesia a few weeks ago. She was very skiddish for a few days....I think she thought I was going to terrorize her again or something :-O She did eat during this time but all cats can be different. And you are introducing a new food as well which will throw your cat off. Did your doctor offer any solutions to the constipation? I feed my cat raw but I also have been adding in 100% pumpkin and the vet gave me some lactulose as a stool softner. These help a bit but she still sometimes will not have a bowel movement for 3-4 days. I am trying to remedy this with tweaking her raw diet which I am hoping will help. You will have to watch the litterbox for signs of constipation - ie. if cat is overly straining and throws up outside the litterbox from straining so hard he could have a stool blockage that needs to be addressed, no stool for 3-4 days (start calling the vet), running back and forth to the litterbox put producing no stool and licking afterwards, etc. These are all signs that he may be constipated...I phoned the vet yesterday b/c she didn't have a stool for 4 days and was going to bring her in today to have her checked but she had one while I was asleep lastnight so she is ok now. I do not think it is a hairball - both my cats have constant hairballs and constipation is not one of the signs (or the signs you provided). I have never heard someone recommend treats for hairballs...no wonder he doesn't want to eat them. If you feel it is a hairball I would purchase some Laxatone (or a similar hairball treatment) from the vets office. You put it on their paws and they can lick it off. My cats lick it of my finger. But I very rarely give this to them anymore b/c it has petroleum jelly in it. Only on serious occasions with hairballs. Maybe try the SD with much much less of the new stuff....some cats can be very picky and take longer to transition. Slowly add more and more of the new stuff and gradually decrease the SD. This may even take a transition period of weeks maybe even months. Unless he is really sick for another reason. My other cat has had enlarges anal glands that have caused her issues with her stools. The vet would have to excrete them every once in a while as well.
  • Gretchen SmithGretchen Smith ManheimMember Posts: 22
    edited 31 December, 2008
    That's where I'm stumped. When they did the enema, the vet said everything looked fine and the stool was soft, not hard like you would expect for constipation. They said if I use a stool softener, I could end up with the runs. All of my other vital signs (eyes, ears, heart beat, etc.) looked good, so they don't think I'm sick otherwise. Maybe it is just getting over the enema. They gave me a pain medicine and tonight I do the last dose of that so we'll see if now that I'll have no medicine in me and it'll be a few days since the enema was done if I start going back to normal. I think we're going to try the straight SD for a bit again and see if that's more appealing rather than throwing all of these changes in all at once. Thanks!
  • Kerri ZimmermanKerri Zimmerman WinnipegMember Posts: 448
    edited 31 December, 2008
    That might be a good idea :D Stay with what is normal for now. If he just had an anema and has medication in him he really is not himself at the moment. Give him a couple of days to get back to normal. If he is hiding or won't come for the food- leave the food with him so he can dabble when he feels comfortable. Poor kitty...I hope he is better soon |^| I am stumped to with the vet saying his stools are soft. Do you know if she checked his anal glands. They could be irritating him???
  • Gretchen SmithGretchen Smith ManheimMember Posts: 22
    edited 31 December, 2008
    I am just hoping the stool they took out with the enema was the problem and there's not something else still causing pain. How long does it take to get over the anesthesia and enema? Maybe it varies on the cat. Hopefully, by the weekend he'll have recovered from the anesthesia and enema and be back to normal. They took an x-ray though and said other than the large amount of stool, everything looked fine. He is hiding and won't come for food, so I'll try to leave some with him. I put a few pieces by him on his cat tree last night and he swiped at them and knocked them to the floor. The vet didn't say anything about the anal glands. Is there a way to check and see if they are irritating him?
  • Kerri ZimmermanKerri Zimmerman WinnipegMember Posts: 448
    edited 31 December, 2008
    My cat would hide under the bed downstairs. When she would come out from under the bed she would run from me any time I would come near. I think the anema is very dramatic on a cat. Although the vet did mention to me that she would be skiddish for a few days. After about the 3rd or 4th day she started getting back to normal. Your cat is on medication too so this may be double time? The vet was going to let me feel her anal glands but I opted out.:-O Does your cat like canned food? Maybe try feeding him canned instead or any other kind of food he likes? tuna/salmon juice or meat, Meat, baby food (meat only)...Because he should eat...if he doesn't eat by friday/saturday - I would call the vet!!! It may be some underlying issue...Let us know how he is progressing!
  • Lisa DausmanLisa Dausman Member Posts: 5,216
    edited 31 December, 2008
    When they gave Prowler the enema, he was his normal self right away, kinda like you or I would feel better right away. They put him on the Met, because he was kept getting constipated over time, fine for a few days, then const, which was related to the food in his case. When you do need a hairball remedy, get Petromalt, you can get it at Petsmart, it looks like toothpaste, you put a dab on their paw, and they lick it off. I never cared for the treats hairball, if they won't eat them, what good are they. If ya still have the receipt, you can take them back, tell they your cat won't eat them, Petsmart is very good about returns. I had another thought, since he is constipated, but not because his stool is hard, I am wondering if he is holding it. Have you changed litter boxes or cat litter? Is the litter box in a quiet out of the way location? Is the cat box no where near his food? Did the location of the cat box change? Some cats are overly pickey about the litter box and litter. They like the box in a quiet spot, where there is not alot of commotion and traffic, and they don't like the box near their food. Kinda like, we like privacy, and we don't want to eat our meals in the bathroom. Do you pick the cat box every day? Some like the box very clean, you can add a box of baking soda, that helps with the odor, just get the one at the dollar store. Some will only poop in one box and want another box to pee. Has anything changed in the household? Routine, another family member, a new pet, more visitors than normal, more commotion than normal? Some are very sensitive to any household change, they like a normal routine and everything in its place. They will "patrol" a few times a day, to make sure everything is where it should be. Glad you did the x-ray, I always advocate that. If he is still not feeling well, I would ask for blood work, to see if any levels are not normal. With horses, sometimes it can be alot of detective work, to figure out what is wrong, as they can't talk, lol, well, except for Mr Ed, so pretty used to that, and cats are the same way, and they are more overly pickey, so sometimes its even harder with them. Hope we figure this out soon, and hope he is feeling better soon. :):):):):):D:D:D:D:):):)
  • Eva viezelEva viezel MontrealMember Posts: 3,008
    edited 31 December, 2008
    :-h Hi TJ, there is lots of good advice here. Someone mentioned pumpkin and I would strongly second that. It is good for constipation and the runs. Make sure it is 100% pure pumpkin.It comes in a can. My brother likes it just as is off the spoon. Me, I am more finicky so mom mixes it into my food. I teaspoon a day. We strongly believe that dry food is just not good for us.So which ever you end up with I would definitely recommend wet. Good luck, not fun being sick! Happy New Year, Alfie |:|
  • Lisa DaversLisa Davers SacramentoMember Posts: 3,642
    edited 1 January, 2009
    TJ it will take a couple of days after the enema before you'd pass a stool and hopefully that will be normal again. If it isn't I'd ask your vet if there is a specialist that you could see. It sounds like you don't have constipation and there could be something wrong with your insides that mean that things aren't moving through properly
  • janice lancasterjanice lancaster temple gaMember Posts: 2,505
    edited 1 January, 2009
    I had an enema, etc and it took a few days for me to need to 'go' again. I agree that the vet should check your rectal area carefully for anything that might make you want to 'hold it', if you dan't get more regular.
  • Gretchen SmithGretchen Smith ManheimMember Posts: 22
    edited 1 January, 2009
    Thanks for all of the advice! Mommy has read about pumpkin, but she's not too sure I'll go for it. I'm very fussy. We might try that in time though. Mommy changed my box today and gave me a new and bigger box. I fit into this one much more comfortably than the old one. I had a poop and mommy said it looked good and normal. This is the first I've had since the enema on Monday. I also ate a good bit of food and this is the first I've really eaten (except little nibbles here and there) for awhile. We are still going to keep an eye on things as we don't know what caused me to back up in the first place. Hopefully, this means I'm on the mend. I'll keep you posted if things get better or worse. Happy New Year to all!
  • Eva viezelEva viezel MontrealMember Posts: 3,008
    edited 1 January, 2009
    Glad to hear your news, TJ! It really sounds like you didn\'t like your litterbox! Good detective work, mom! Love, Alfie
  • Kerri ZimmermanKerri Zimmerman WinnipegMember Posts: 448
    edited 1 January, 2009
    Woohoo....good news for the start of the year ;P It's great to hear he is getting back to his normal self. An anema mixed with medication is hard on a cats body...but it sounds like the new litter box may have been a good change ~a~ Cats are very finicky and have no way of telling us if they don't like something or are hurting. Keep an eye on him for a bit and monitor his eating and bowel movements just in case there is an underlying illness.... Way to go TJ |/h/|
  • shannon szuszalskishannon szuszalski ABQMember Posts: 1,542
    edited 1 January, 2009
    Great news! We wanted to chime in on litterbox size too. Good idea getting a bigger box. Nikko and I are big boys and, while we never refused to use our smaller boxes, we were much happier when Mom realized that big boys need big litter boxes. We like to really dig around and find just the right spot in the box to do our "jobs" We have two boxes too and the funny thing is, we tend to use one just for peeps and one just for poops. Mom thinks that is funny. We decided that all on our own and we both agree to it. MOL Also, about Pumpkin. Give it a try. I hate it, but my brother likes it and it helps. We are long haired kitties and battle furballs sometimes. There is also a petroleum free hairball gel from Vetbasis that works wonders and tastes pretty good. It helps to lube things up when needed too. Good luck and keep on pooping!%:D%
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