unknown illness

Kat WhickerKat Whicker ToledoMember Posts: 1,695
edited 11 January, 2011 in Cat Health
Tiny was in the vet yesterday. she was tired, bloated and hot. X-ray showed nothing, exam showed nothing but the bloating. No gas or poop to explain. Blood work was fine except that she was dehydrated. Everything was normal, except i know she isnt feeling well, and her belly is tender. She has been constpated before but xray show shes not now. She is on fluids, metacam (painkiller) and laxatone for keeping her regualr. She gets wet food only and stays inside. We are stumped. This is vet #2 shes seen for this and nothing. Vet thinks it could be some sort of stomache issue, or possily pancratitis (sp?) the vet bill was expensive and we found nothing. i am so fusterated, i just want my baby to feel better. We lost a cat to pancratic cancer ( tucker) i am very fearfull for Tiny, i want to catch anytthing earlyer.
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  • Lisa ProvostLisa Provost Member Posts: 4,486
    edited 31 August, 2010
    Hi there! My Alex died of a pancreatic infection because she had Triaditis. So I personally understand your fear as pancreatitis is painful and very scary. What kind of wet food are you feeding? Is it grain free and high protein? When you touch her belly, is it tender? Does she lay in a meatloaf position on the floor and squint her eyes as if she's in pain? The problem wit x-rays is that they won't always show everything going on in the intestines. The pancreas is located behind the stomach and very difficult to spot unless done with an ultrasound. Have they done an ultrasound at all? There's also a blood panel they should do called a PLI. If they send it to IDEXX they can have it back in 48 hours. I'm sure since you've lost a kitty to pancreatic cancer you already know a lot about the pancreas but here's some additional reading to do on my website: http://ibdkitties.net/pancreatitis.html. Did your previous kitty have IBD as well or was it just the cancer? I'm so sorry you're going through this again. I live in fear myself of Finn and Lacey getting sick and I do everything possible I can think of to try and keep them healthy after what Alex went through. It was horrible and painful for her and I don't want to see mine go through that as well. Please let me know if I can help okay?
  • Kat WhickerKat Whicker ToledoMember Posts: 1,695
    edited 31 August, 2010
    hello tiny dosnt seem to be in alot of pain, but we beleve it may be early sighns of an illness. The test is next on the list. an ultra sound might be out of my budget :( xray and bloodwork was to rule out anything else. were kinda in the earlt stages of figureing this out. Tucker had blood sugar issues, but it was the cancer that ended up killing him in the end. He was a barn cat at my moms house, Tiny is mine, so its odd they may have the same Tiny gets a various wet food that dosnt have wheat, soy, corn or potatoes in it. She was so good at the vet for her exam, bloodwork and xray. but for fluids she had to have a muzzle and be in those cat bags. I was laughing at her, said it was her party outfit. she was such a brat but i cant blame her. She didnt bite anyone and the second she was done she was purring. oh, teen.
  • Lisa ProvostLisa Provost Member Posts: 4,486
    edited 31 August, 2010
    I know an ultrasound is expensive but it's also pre-emptive. X-rays really don't always show the full extent of the intestines and what's really going on. You can always work out a payment plan with your vet. Until you know for sure how the bloodwork comes out and maybe get an ultrasound, I don't know what else to tell you. :?
  • Kat WhickerKat Whicker ToledoMember Posts: 1,695
    edited 31 August, 2010
    its not that im to cheep to get an ultrasound, i really dont have that kind of money upfront, which is what there gunna expect.
  • Lisa ProvostLisa Provost Member Posts: 4,486
    edited 31 August, 2010
    Oh no! No, no, no. I don't think you're cheap. I know how expensive it is! Alex had it done twice and it's very expensive. I was in debt thousands of dollars by the time she passed away. But I was able to make arrangements with my vet to put some money down the day of the procedure and then make a payment on it every month. Is that possible to do? You could always ask them if it's possible. I have some suggestions to make on things you can do but I honestly don't like to do that without first knowing if that's the problem. By giving something, even if all natural, you never know if you could be aggrevating another underlying condition. Do you know what I mean? I just don't know what to do to help until the proper tests have been done. When is the results of the bloodwork coming back?
  • Lisa DausmanLisa Dausman Member Posts: 5,216
    edited 31 August, 2010
    How about Care Credit, its for emergencies, and if you get referred to a specialist for the ultrasound they take Care Credit, mine did, when Smokey had go go for an er ultrasound. And my vet will take it for emergencies. If ya got decent credit, doesn't have to be excellent, they will usually accept you, and start you with a $500. limit. http://www.carecredit.com/apply/index.html I would ask to be referred to an internal medicine specialist, and I would have suggested the ultra sound too, and actually, thats prob the first thing they are going to do. Best of luck. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
  • Kat WhickerKat Whicker ToledoMember Posts: 1,695
    edited 31 August, 2010
    bloodwork is back and its normal except for mild dehyrdration, that we treated. no go on care credit eaither, tryed that, i will update more later, thanks all.
  • Lisa DaversLisa Davers SacramentoMember Posts: 3,642
    edited 31 August, 2010
    Miss Tiny, if you suspect pancreatitis one other sign is if your poop is a light/yellowish colour because you are not digesting fats properly. If you have this switching to a low fat diet can help and ask the vet what else they would normally do to treat it. As long as the treatment is not dangerous the vet may be willing to start treatment without the expensive tests and see how you do. I hope you figure this out and are feeling better soon.
  • Kat WhickerKat Whicker ToledoMember Posts: 1,695
    edited 1 September, 2010
    i have seen yellow poo in the litterbox :( maybe i need to take her back for the test *sigh*
  • Kat WhickerKat Whicker ToledoMember Posts: 1,695
    edited 1 September, 2010
    come to think of it, in her last xray a few months ago,there was a mystery shaped cresent in the picture. i wonder if the pancreais can get swollen? i am freaking out a little here. I wonder if i should take her to Michigan State hospital? gah thats so expensive. my poor teen. anyone in the michigan/ohio area recommend a good vet? i dont think they have ultrasound at my current one.
  • Lisa ProvostLisa Provost Member Posts: 4,486
    edited 1 September, 2010
    Oh my gosh, poor little baby! Yellow poo is NOT good and yes, that's what pancreatitis is, swelling and inflammation of the pancreas. When they use the term "inflamed" or bright red, that's what it means. I know it's super expensive and you're dreading it, gosh I know how it feels. But if it were me, I would take her where you're thinking of. OR at least call around to other vets, tell them what happened and that your vet doesn't have ultrasound, etc. and see if they're more experienced with this. maybe an all feline vets? I don't think there's too much time to waste. Yellow poop means she's seriously suffering from malabsorption. Is she jaundiced at all? Are her ears yellow, the skin on her stomach, her eyes?
  • Renee RyzRenee Ryz Member Posts: 2,164
    edited 1 September, 2010
    We just want you to know that we are purring extra hard for you to feel better. I hope that you are able to find a vet to help you. hugs & purrs|:|
  • Jennifer NovakJennifer Novak DC (But my heart is still in BMember Posts: 595
    edited 1 September, 2010
    Hi, there, and I hope your little one is feeling better soon! I just wanted to add that my bridge baby, Felix, also had pancreatitis -- which manifested from a disease called Bartonella. It's usually caused by a flea bite. And Felix never had fleas in his life (he was an indoor kitty), but our vet said that one could have come in on my shoe...or he could have even been bitten by a flea at the vet's office. Felix, too, had a sonogram and was seen by an internal medicine specialist. If they haven't checked for Bartonella yet, you might want to ask your vet to run bloodwork for that, too. Purrrrrs, Coop's Mom
  • Lisa DaversLisa Davers SacramentoMember Posts: 3,642
    edited 1 September, 2010
    This page has some good info & pictures about pancreatitis. http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=1+2135&aid=334 I would not go straight to an ultrasound because of the cost but the blood test is ~$250 and would confirm if it is pancreatitis. The treatments discussed on that page don't sound to bad and hopefully would work if it is a mild case. It may be worth shifting to a bland low fat diet now which woul dhopefully take the pressure off her pancreas. If you can get some cheap chicken breasts, boiled chicken breast could be a tasty low fat meal til you can get the diagnosis confirmed and discuss longer term diet with the vet. I hope you find a good vet and Miss Tiny is soon getting better.
  • Lisa ProvostLisa Provost Member Posts: 4,486
    edited 1 September, 2010
    I don't agree about that. A blood test isn't going to tell you if there's a mass of some kind growing there, only an ultrasound will do that. I know she's trying to save money but she had a kitty that already died of pancreatic cancer before. So I'd be more inclined myself to get the ultrasound myself and see for sure that there's nothing going on there that may be able to be treated now. Please read the pancreatitis page on my site: http://ibdkitties.net/pancreatitis.html
  • Shelley CoxShelley Cox CarbondaleMember Posts: 2,752
    edited 1 September, 2010
    This is Delyte, Miss Tiny, we don't know anything about your illness, but we are so sorry that you are sick and we all are purring for you to get better so hard! |:|
  • Marie CallinMarie Callin Member Posts: 494
    edited 2 September, 2010
    Could you get the vet to prescibe a differant painkiller? Metacam is very dangerous for cats and it certainly won't help matters:( Sending purrs your way|:|
  • janice lancasterjanice lancaster temple gaMember Posts: 2,505
    edited 2 September, 2010
    :(( poor Tiny...we don't have any further suggestions but everyone here is purring hard for you.
  • Janet & David MacdonaldJanet & David Macdonald Upper TantallonMember Posts: 12
    edited 5 September, 2010
    Sounds like my Squeaker. After a few weeks ,after she came home from vet she was spayed,,,first her neck area got swollen ,looked like flea or some kind of bug bites on her neck. So I got cold compresses for her ,she liked them. It went down as quickly as it came. Then a few days later her tummy started getting bigger ,,now she looks like she is going to have babies but isnt. She eats wet and dry food. One day when she let me ,,I ran my hands down both sides of her tummy ,,its tender so she usually dont let me touch her tummy much. Just as I got to her middle ,I heard PSSSSSTTT man did she stink ,,think there might have been gas build up inside her ,,does this happen often to kitties ,,our other kitties didnt go thur this ,they all eat the same stuff. I cant afford to go to vet right now just getting back to work and getting major bills caught up.
  • Lisa ProvostLisa Provost Member Posts: 4,486
    edited 5 September, 2010
    I would look at changing Squeaker's food. What's he eating right now? Gas is really painful so a change in diet would most likely help. Is he eating okay and still acting normal?
  • Kat WhickerKat Whicker ToledoMember Posts: 1,695
    edited 5 September, 2010
    i havent heard anything bad about metacam. its not suppose to help but releve her of her pain untill we figure out what she has. were still worken on it, shes not yellow or seems to be sick. but has stinky farts.
  • Lisa ProvostLisa Provost Member Posts: 4,486
    edited 5 September, 2010
    Metacam has been known to cause kidney failure in some cats. It is still widely used though but does have some risks to it that are legit. Buprenex is a better and safer pain med.
  • Marie CallinMarie Callin Member Posts: 494
    edited 5 September, 2010
    Here is site about the use of metacam in cats: http://www.metacamkills.com/ Copy/paste from that site: FDA's Adverse Drug Experience (5/3/07) 512 Cats Evaluated on Oral Meloxicam / Metacam Anorexia - 233 High Creatinine - 232 High BUN - 227 Depression/Lethargy - 207 Vomiting - 171 Kidney Failure - 119 High P - 96 Death - 72 Azotemia - 59 Death Euthanized - 58 Dehydration - 42
  • Kat WhickerKat Whicker ToledoMember Posts: 1,695
    edited 6 September, 2010
    cats generally dont do well on any pain med
  • janice lancasterjanice lancaster temple gaMember Posts: 2,505
    edited 16 September, 2010
    BUMP has anyone seen Tiny around. I jhope nothing bad has happened.:((
  • Kat WhickerKat Whicker ToledoMember Posts: 1,695
    edited 17 September, 2010
    thanks for thinking about me. I havent been on the forums lately. Tiny is doing better. We switched her diet to all wet with no kibble even for treats, and hairball treatment (to help her poo) 2X's a week. shes going back for a checkup next week.
  • BROOKE LOWRYBROOKE LOWRY TampaMember Posts: 6,037
    edited 17 September, 2010
    Glad to hear it, Tiny! ;c;
  • Dawn HarmanDawn Harman SpeedwellMember Posts: 1,079
    edited 17 September, 2010
    Now that is good news! Could your vet just treat her for it, without getting the ultra sound? I hope things continue to get better for you! Purrs and head butts! |:|
  • janice lancasterjanice lancaster temple gaMember Posts: 2,505
    edited 18 September, 2010
    Yay! I'm glad Tiny is doing better, for sure.
  • Cait LemoineCait Lemoine Member Posts: 1
    edited 10 October, 2010
    I just joined and was wondering how Tiny was doing Cait
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